http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ The official forum of the Sugarloafers Snowmobile Club en Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:07:33 +0000 http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/for-sale-95-aluminum-triton-2-place-trailer#post-179 Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:47:23 +0000 Assault800 179@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Sold! </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/2001-rmk-800-low-miles#post-178 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 08:37:53 +0000 fitzmobetta 178@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>This is a 2001 Rmk 800.1400 miles. 156 track all stock except it has a 3 inch bar riser. Sled is super clean and well maintained. Asking $3500 o.b.o. contact Armand @ 661-201-2332 or <a href="mailto:Armand_dpc@yahoo.com">Armand_dpc@yahoo.com</a> </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/for-sale-95-aluminum-triton-2-place-trailer#post-177 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:46:13 +0000 Assault800 177@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p><strong>SOLD!</strong></p> <p><strike>FOR SALE: 1996 Triton Lite, aluminum, tilt, two place trailer. New deck and recently re-placed tires (including the spare). New rear LED lights. New plastic ski guides. Nice trailer, easy to tow! Selling because we bought an enclosed trailer. </p> <p>$1500.00 OBO</p> <p>(661) 203-8836</strike> </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/snowed-at-greenhorn-today-29-apr-2010#post-176 Tue, 04 May 2010 21:48:00 +0000 donbrown 176@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>so ... when is the next ride? </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/snowed-at-greenhorn-today-29-apr-2010#post-175 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 04:32:57 +0000 skimike 175@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>that sounds great , I was looking at the sherman cam yesterday and there was alot of snow on the trees, I wanna ride </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/snowed-at-greenhorn-today-29-apr-2010#post-174 Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:48:49 +0000 donbrown 174@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Snowed about 3 inches and was sticking at the CalTrans facility by Alta Sierra </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/ride-23-24-25-april-sherman-pass#post-173 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:06:38 +0000 donbrown 173@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Had a great ride up to Sherman Peak !!!</p> <p>Awesome !! </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/ride-23-24-25-april-sherman-pass#post-172 Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:33:47 +0000 donbrown 172@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>call me at 805-390-1418 cell phone ... we can ride !!! </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/ride-23-24-25-april-sherman-pass#post-171 Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:49:04 +0000 skimike 171@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>don wed like to meet u with you on sat, I have only been there 1 time and didnt ride much cause the snow was too deep for my wife to ride. my friend bob hasnt been there at all. we did go to sonora several weeks ago for the first time and neither one of us had been there before and that place was awesome. I have about 1800 miles in at mammoth this year. we both are advanced riders but not pros. </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/ride-23-24-25-april-sherman-pass#post-170 Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:38:18 +0000 skimike 170@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>I think my buddy Bob and I are going u sat, any tis, suggestions or thoughts on how much snow/conditions </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/ride-23-24-25-april-sherman-pass#post-169 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:05:39 +0000 donbrown 169@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Was there last weekend 18 April. Lots of snow between unloading and the Yurt. Anybody want to ride? </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-grooming#post-168 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:01:00 +0000 donbrown 168@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>I doubt they groom again cause it might reduce the life of the snow on the trail </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-grooming#post-167 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:56:54 +0000 skimike 167@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>hey guys any word if any grooming ever got done </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-grooming#post-166 Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:00:38 +0000 Mike G 166@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Good to see you Roy on Friday. We had a good campout and rode all 3 days. Got alot of off trail and up to Sherman Peak and beyond (probably your tracks we followed). Still 7 ft at the vista... hopefully get some more with this storm. Going to hit Mammoth this weekend, maybe one more Sherman trip mid-April. Glad to hear Bob has the groomer &quot;almost&quot; fixed. </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-grooming#post-165 Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:38:00 +0000 Roy Allard 165@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Groomer is supposed to be fixed today and then grooming to resume on Monday after Easter. I rode on Friday at Sherman the the snow was great after 11 as Mike said. It&#39;s time to get on the mountain as it&#39;s go anywhere snow. I&#39;m planning a trip to Sherman on Saturday 4/3/10. </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-grooming#post-164 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:52:25 +0000 Mike G 164@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Rode Sherman yesterday and today with my son. Still spots of snow on the road and unload at the wide spot below the main stage area. Tough to get turned around or fit many rigs due to the unplowed snow in the area. Really could use a good plow job. 8 ft at the vista pole, snow is frozen till about 10-11 am, then it softens up and then it&#39;s go anywhere....... fun boondocking. Still a good cover at the saddle approaching Bald Mtn., so you can still access Blackrock, eastern trails, etc....<br /> Groomer is now out of the road and parked at Blackrock. </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/avalanche-big-iron-shoot-out-revelstoke-2-dead-31-injured#post-163 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:24:53 +0000 donbrown 163@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p><a href="http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100314/national/avalanche_dead_1" rel="nofollow">http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100314/national/avalanche_dead_1</a></p> <p>REVELSTOKE, B.C. - What many feared would be one of the worst death tolls ever in the B.C. backcountry appears to be an almost miraculous story of survival. </p> <p>But with the relief at a major catastrophe averted came anger from some in the snowmobiling community who say the two killed - and the real potential there could have been dozens more - should never have happened. </p> <p>&quot;That was shear stupidity,&quot; said Brandyn Mears, who works at Powder Petes snowmobile rental shop in Revelstoke. </p> <p>He was referring to witnesses who reported watching the avalanche trigger when a few people attending the annual Big Iron Shoot-Out began high-marking, racing their snowmobiles up the side of the mountain to see who can leave the highest mark and get down safely. </p> <p>Dozens of sledders stopped to watch from what they thought was a safe distance. </p> <p>It wasn&#39;t. </p> <p>A towering wall of snow with the force of concrete came tumbling down the mountainside near where a group of 200 was gathered, sweeping spectators and their snowmobiles with it.[/b] </p> <p>Police wouldn&#39;t directly say it was the high-markers who caused the avalanche. </p> <p>But those in the snowmobiling community had little doubt. </p> <p>&quot;It&#39;s guys with the most expensive sleds out to prove who&#39;s best, not to prove who&#39;s the safest,&quot; said Mears, who noted the first mistake was being out on a snowmobile in avalanche conditions deemed dangerous in the first place. </p> <p>When &quot;a lot of people were ignoring the avalanche risk ... something like this happens,&quot; he said. &quot;It&#39;s the few bad apples who ruin it for the rest.&quot; </p> <p>The massive slide sent 31 to the hospital, one in critical condition. The death toll could easily have risen beyond two but for the quick rescue efforts of fellow snowmobilers. <strong></p> <p>RCMP say they have accounted for all those known to have been on remote Boulder Mountain, in the Monashee Mountains, when the deadly avalanche tumbled down Saturday afternoon. </p> <p>After searching for abandoned vehicles and canvassing hotels in the Revelstoke area, Cpl. Dan Moskaluk said there was nobody that RCMP know of left unaccounted for, and no new reports of missing people. </p> <p>&quot;All the persons we had on these lists of names have been accounted for and have been checked off the lists,&quot; Moskaluk told reporters. </p> <p>&quot;We&#39;re in a far different situation than we were just over 24 hours ago with a report of over 200 people being possibly affected by this slide. We&#39;re very fortunate, albeit though we do have two fatalities as a result of this incident.&quot; </p> <p>B.C. Solicitor General Kash Heed, who flew to Revelstoke on Sunday, said because of the search volunteers, &quot;we are fortunate that there weren&#39;t many more lives lost in this unfortunate incident.&quot; </p> <p>Survivors have described a scene of chaos after the slide. </p> <p>Moskaluk said RCMP believe the slide was triggered by high-marking, but he declined to directly blame the riders, who have not been identified, or say whether they are among the dead. Nor would he say whether they could face charges. </p> <p>Rather, he said only that RCMP and the coroner&#39;s service are investigating. </p> <p>The annual event - &quot;big iron&quot; sometimes refers to a snowmobile - is a gathering not sanctioned by any snowmobile club and involves different kinds of skills contests. High-marking isn&#39;t uncommon. </p> <p>Some of those gathered on the mountain, possibly including children, were watching as what one witness called &quot;those crazy guys&quot; raced up the mountain. </p> <p>Ben Bassaraba of Fernie, B.C., was recovering in hospital in nearby Kamloops on Sunday. He described being tossed 200 metres by the snow. </p> <p>&quot;I was eating a lunch with a buddy of mine, and I could hear - it sounded like thunder, pretty much, it was really loud. So I looked up and there it was coming and it was probably 30 feet high,&quot; he told Kamloops radio station CHNL. </p> <p>He saw others being dragged under by the snow, just as he was eventually overtaken. </p> <p>&quot;Everybody I could see went under. It was so massive, there was nowhere you could go, anyways,&quot; Bassaraba said. &quot;I should have been way down deep, I don&#39;t know how I ended up on top. I was lucky, but there&#39;s people less lucky, that&#39;s for sure.&quot; </strong>[b]</p> <p>Moskaluk said 19 of the 31 injured were released from hospital. Four were transferred to hospitals in Calgary, Kelowna, Kamloops and Vernon, B.C., for treatment of more serious injuries. </p> <p>Two men who witnessed the avalanche said it hit so many people in part because a crowd stopped to watch the high-marking. </p> <p>Steve Langevin, 38, said he thought the crowd was safe from the people he called &quot;those crazy guys&quot; because they were what seemed like kilometres away, but the wave of snow was so massive it easily reached them. </p> <p>His friend, Pierre Beaudoin, 48, said the accident could have been prevented. </p> <p>&quot;We were watching, a whole bunch of people were parking there and then they were watching the high-mark. That&#39;s why everybody was stopped there.&quot; </p> <p>He said it was irresponsible for the few snowmobilers to run up the mountainside in those conditions, especially with a number of them going up at the same time. </p> <p>&quot;The minute one makes it to the top, oh, the next guy, I could do it, and then it becomes stupid. And it was stupid, they were starting to come from the side, one&#39;s coming down and one&#39;s going up. </p> <p>&quot;Then everything started going crazy.&quot; </p> <p>Despite previous backcountry tragedies, this latest slide shook the town and the entire backcountry community. </p> <p>The Canadian Avalanche Centre had a warning out for the area this weekend that the risk of avalanche was &quot;considerable.&quot; </p> <p>Greg Johnson, of the Canadian Avalanche Association that runs the centre based in Revelstoke, said conditions in the B.C. backcountry have been &quot;tricky&quot; for the past six weeks, and got worse after a storm in recent days dumped a heavy load of snow on weak layers underneath. </p> <p>The snow pack was stabilizing but was still &quot;highly unstable&quot; when the slide occurred. </p> <p>&quot;We continue to receive reports of avalanches being triggered this morning, so, the snowpack is still very unstable on a certain part of the terrain where avalanches have not run in the cycle,&quot; Johnson told reporters in Revelstoke. </p> <p>Johnson avoided comment on whether the snowmobilers should have been there at all. </p> <p>&quot;We issue our bulletins daily, we update our bulletins daily from the avalanche centre. We also make efforts to send out special information, special avalanche warnings when conditions are conducive to higher risk. We did that the way we normally do,&quot; he said. &quot;Whether these people had that information when they went into the mountains, I can&#39;t tell. </p> <p>So far this year, there have been far fewer avalanche deaths compared to last winter when there were two dozen. One slide claimed the lives of eight snowmobilers near Fernie, B.C., in December 2008. There were 13 avalanche deaths the previous winter<br /> [b] </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-grooming#post-162 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:23:09 +0000 donbrown 162@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Sherman Pass not groomed. Still waiting for parts and snowcat is brokedown about a mile north of Blackrock station.<br /> FS Bob says parking below 7000 spot but can go past road closed sign to unload. About a half mile past road closed sign to miss any bald spots on the road.<br /> Snow is starting to set up and long tracks only for off trail. Short tracks could ride ungroomed trails if following other sleds.<br /> Since ungroomed watch out for drifts and steep cut wind pockets on the trail. Be safe.<br /> Trails to remain open for sledding and tree planting this year will be in the Big Meadow area accesses thru Horse meadow turnoff[b] </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/updated-website#post-161 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:16:57 +0000 couchmen 161@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Thank you Justin, for the updated website, I think it&#39;s great. </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/updated-website#post-160 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:46:19 +0000 Justin 160@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Thank you all for the positive feedback! I&#39;m glad you are enjoying the new website. </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/updated-website#post-159 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:13:58 +0000 rncmathews 159@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Very Nice! Thank you Justin!!! Not sure about everyone else but as far as we go this is much better!!!! </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/updated-website#post-158 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:41:14 +0000 Assault800 158@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Nice Job! :) </p> <p>The pics were nice to look at, too...</p> <p>Keep up the good work, I think more people use the site than you might think, (They just don&#39;t post anything). It is useful and I know people appreciate it for things like the updated snow conditions from those who do post trip reports. </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/rode-sherman-sunday#post-157 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:56:09 +0000 ronholt 157@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Henry Rivera and I rode Sherman on Saturday. Dug a path to the yurt, which is well supplied. Had lunch at the ranger station. Rode on to 108. Planned to take it on the return, but it was getting late, too late to get stuck. No sign of anyone else having been on that trail for who knows how long. Saw three sleds heading home while at the yurt.</p> <p>Anyone going to Sherman next weekend? </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/updated-website#post-156 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:07:39 +0000 donbrown 156@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Thank you Justin !! </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/updated-website#post-155 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:07:44 +0000 Justin 155@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ For technical reasons that I really don't feel like elaborating upon, I became very tired of the website side of sugarloafers.com. It wasn't being used the way I felt it should have been, and doing certain things on it were a lot harder then they should have been. Hence the reason for the updated (more technically, completely new) Sugarloafers site. <br /> <br /> Perhaps the biggest change is the addition of a <a href="http://sugarloafers.com/pictures.html">photo gallery</a>. With the new backend it is very easy for me to add pictures to the website, so please feel free to <a href="mailto:admin@sugarloafers.com?subject=Pictures">email pictures</a> you have taken to me.<br /> <br /> <a href="mailto:admin@sugarloafers.com">admin@sugarloafers.com</a> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-tr#post-154 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:40:04 +0000 donbrown 154@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Actually the trails are between the Kern river. There is an upper and lower. The upper is at Kenndy meadows and the lower is by Hwy 99 thru Kernville.</p> <p>Both rivers go into Lake Isabella. </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-tr#post-153 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:30:12 +0000 skimike 153@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>roy , I was on the kern river side </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-tr#post-152 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:26:06 +0000 skimike 152@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>I want to go back bad , there was at ton of snow but the only way my wife will go back is if it is groomed. thats why she likes mammoth so much is because they groom daily or every couple of days </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-tr#post-151 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:23:20 +0000 skimike 151@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>2 miles in the road turns right and there is another road to the left , I hesitated and started to turn around then decided not to but it was too late , it only took 15 min to dig out, I went ahead and rode my sled a total of 4 miles in then turned around and rode back , then I took my wifes sled to the same spot and turned it around </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-tr#post-150 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:55:34 +0000 donbrown 150@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Well that is a bummer.</p> <p>Where did you get stuck? </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-tr#post-149 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:56:22 +0000 skimike 149@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>I ride a 2010 m8 snopro 153, it was my own fault , I stopped going uphill and tried to turn around </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sherman-pass-report#post-148 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:17:43 +0000 donbrown 148@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>FS Bob wants to let us know they will try to get the groomer running on March 10th next Wednesday.</p> <p>The groomer is brokedown and buried a mile from Blackrock station. </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sugarloaf-conditions#post-147 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:19:00 +0000 g moses 147@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Ron I rode Sugarloaf 2 weeks ago.The Quads completely destroyed the trail from the parking area to portugese pass.The groomer had only trackpacked the loop from the main trail to tobias and on to Dunlap. Unless he,s been back to finish up ,Those trails are very torn up. Baker lookout was great. WE will be on the mountain this weekend .maybe we will see you </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/sugarloaf-conditions#post-145 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:02:21 +0000 ronholt 145@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Anyone ride Sugarloaf lately? I&#39;m thinking of going this weekend. What are the conditions? Thanks. </p> http://forum.sugarloafers.com/topic/bridgeport-lee-vining-mammoth-trip-report#post-144 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:56:41 +0000 Mike G 144@http://forum.sugarloafers.com/ <p>Rode Mammoth Sat and Sun. Conditions are excellent and it&#39;s March 1st!! 2 ft of fresh on the east side, another foot predicted this week and more to come maybe next weekend! Had some trail sleds with us so we were limited, but rode the flats and up to Bald Mtn, with alot of off trail along the way. Last grooming was on the 25th, 1 to 2 ft of new along all the trails... snow is up to the roof at the warming hut on Bald, and some good hill climbing in the area, with good bonding of the snow layers.<br /> Enjoy, should be a great spring..<br /> mike </p>